| This message is here for gary & pete cuz I got a bad E-mail address and this was a deliverable due from me.. I may be ooc for several days so I used this board to get info out.. sorry to impose.. steveg we at work researched the mess we spoke about last night. I was wrong on the thermal guess.. Here's what we got The "alpha" for steel is 6.07X10-6, titanium is 4.9x10-6 This means that steel expands more than titanium when heated .. this means the nut gets tighter when heated because the stud expands more than the nut. this is the "good" for those two materials in this application. The bad for this application... Titanium is much more elastic than steel.. On a stress/strain curve plastic deformation will occur in steel at a load ~~37% lower than titaanium. Steeel tensile max runs to 70,000 psi, titanium about 110,000 - 115,000 psi. To put it more simply... you need to torque the titanium nut much more than a steel nut in order to get the same locking force you'de have on a steel nut.. If you have materials do a test to failure. Torque a titaniun nut till something breaks.. then re-torque the engine nuts @ about 75- 80% of that load... ie. if your mock-up breaks at 200FT/Lbs torqeue the engine to 150-175 ft/lbs.. when torqued to loads for steel the nut isn't grippiing like steel because it is just stretching at that lower load. Hope this helps .. everyone at work enjoyed the diversion... steve |